Re: Back to the Animals again

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RonC
January 10, 2011 at 16:55:41:

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Re: Back to the Animals again
posted by Craig
January 04, 2011 at 11:30:01:

> David Fontana was a great soul, but I don't
> know what the source of his information was.
...
> Here's what George Wilmot said when he came
> through in a seance with Leslie Flint in 1974.
...
> So maybe that's true. I just don't hear it
> from anyone on the other side. And I can't
> take testimony from people on this side
> surmising about the afterlife as valid evidence
> for what it's like there.
Hi, Craig. I don't mean to sound overly provocative, but I have a question:
Why should I or anyone give a spit (excuse my French...) about guys like Leslie Flint and David Thompson, et al?
What I mean is: I think the exciting stuff - where the *real* evidence is - lies with the ADC (esp. the repeatable ones that you know so much about!), NDE, DBV and NDA (nearing-death awareness).
Mediumship is just so dang muddied and full of fraud. (I do like what Julie Beischel is doing, however.) And I've just never met a convincing medium. As for these recordings, every single one of those Leslie Flint and David Thompson recordings just sound so obviously bogus to my ear. Leslie Flint's all sound identical, no matter who's supposedly coming through; and Thompson operates only in the dark (where the easily mimicked Louis Armstrong seems to always make an appearance). It's all just so... Bleh!
At the very least, being skeptical of Fontana while citing Flint as any kind of authority is just indefensible and biased, in my opinion. Flint is no more an authority than you -- and I dare say you've said alot more interesting things than Flint.
At the very-very least, as someone who doesn't take *any* man's word at 100%, I am never going to accept Flint, Thompson, et al, as any kind of authority or holder of the truth. I need to kick the tires (sometimes more than once), which is why I continue to be so interested in IADC and GAC and OOB exploration (which I have yet to succeed at).
I dunno... The skeptic in me just says that if Flint was so scientifically well-tested that we would definitely know much more about him than we do.
> Someone, somewhere, is saying every manner of
> things about eternal life, so anything can be
> supported by someone somewhere.
Yes! Ain't that the truth...
> But over and over, we hear that our pets are
> there to greet us when we cross over. That's
> just well-established fact. And they live with
> us for as long as we want them to live with us.
I really hope so... I really hope that my profound dream-state "ADC" with my grandfather, and the experiences involving my father and dog weren't just dreams... I really hope this is all true. I'm 99.999% convinced. The skeptic dies hard in me though...
See you at the Afterlife Awareness Conference.

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: : > David Fontana was a great soul, but I don't : > know what the source of his information was. : ... : > Here's what George Wilmot said when he came : > through in a seance with Leslie Flint in 1974. : ... : > So maybe that's true. I just don't hear it : > from anyone on the other side. And I can't : > take testimony from people on this side : > surmising about the afterlife as valid evidence : > for what it's like there. : Hi, Craig. I don't mean to sound overly provocative, but I have a question: : Why should I or anyone give a spit (excuse my French...) about guys like Leslie Flint and David Thompson, et al? : What I mean is: I think the exciting stuff - where the *real* evidence is - lies with the ADC (esp. the repeatable ones that you know so much about!), NDE, DBV and NDA (nearing-death awareness). : Mediumship is just so dang muddied and full of fraud. (I do like what Julie Beischel is doing, however.) And I've just never met a convincing medium. As for these recordings, every single one of those Leslie Flint and David Thompson recordings just sound so obviously bogus to my ear. Leslie Flint's all sound identical, no matter who's supposedly coming through; and Thompson operates only in the dark (where the easily mimicked Louis Armstrong seems to always make an appearance). It's all just so... Bleh! : At the very least, being skeptical of Fontana while citing Flint as any kind of authority is just indefensible and biased, in my opinion. Flint is no more an authority than you -- and I dare say you've said alot more interesting things than Flint. : At the very-very least, as someone who doesn't take *any* man's word at 100%, I am never going to accept Flint, Thompson, et al, as any kind of authority or holder of the truth. I need to kick the tires (sometimes more than once), which is why I continue to be so interested in IADC and GAC and OOB exploration (which I have yet to succeed at). : I dunno... The skeptic in me just says that if Flint was so scientifically well-tested that we would definitely know much more about him than we do. : > Someone, somewhere, is saying every manner of : > things about eternal life, so anything can be : > supported by someone somewhere. : Yes! Ain't that the truth... : > But over and over, we hear that our pets are : > there to greet us when we cross over. That's : > just well-established fact. And they live with : > us for as long as we want them to live with us. : I really hope so... I really hope that my profound dream-state "ADC" with my grandfather, and the experiences involving my father and dog weren't just dreams... I really hope this is all true. I'm 99.999% convinced. The skeptic dies hard in me though... : See you at the Afterlife Awareness Conference.

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